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Disturbance 90L brings heavy rain to Puerto Rico; major pollution in California
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, Saat: 02:05 PM GMT Tarih: 25 Ekim 2007 +3
A surface low pressure system (90L) just east of Puerto Rico is moving to the west at 5-10 mph. This low is entangled with an upper-level low pressure system that is bringing about 30 knots of wind shear, so no development is likely today. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico shows bands of heavy rain hitting the islands and surrounding waters, but these bands are not well-organized. Satellite loops show most of the heavy thunderstorm activity is to the northeast of the low's center of circulation, and high wind shear is keeping this thunderstorm activity disorganized. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 90L.


Figure 1. Latest satellite image of 90L. Image credit: NOAA.

The surface low is expected to separate from the upper level low tonight and move west-southwest or southwest across Puerto Rico, bringing the threat of heavy rain and flooding to the island. Recent rains have left large areas of interior and western Puerto Rico at or near saturation, and mudslides were reported yesterday in Utuado. Flooding problems and mudslides are likely across Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands Friday and Saturday, and this is shaping up to be the most significant rain event of the fall wet season thus far for Puerto Rico.

On Friday and Saturday, 90L will move westward along or just south of Hispaniola, bringing heavy rain, flash flooding, and possible mudslides to that island. The ECMWF and NOGAPS models predict that wind shear will drop to 10-20 knots by Friday night, which may allow some slow development of the disturbance if the center remains over water. The GFS model keeps wind shear 20-30 knots through the period, and does not develop 90L. By Saturday, the storm will near Jamaica, and the ECMWF and NOGAPS models predict a tropical depression will form by Sunday. Steering currents grow weak on Monday, and the storm could stall out for many days in the Western Caribbean, in an area of low wind shear and high heat content waters. This may allow the system to intensify into a hurricane. The eventual fate of this system is highly uncertain, since steering currents will be so weak. Those of you planning to travel to the Western Caribbean next week should keep a close watch on this system. NHC has not scheduled any flights into 90L yet.

It is possible that wind shear and passage over the islands will sufficiently disrupt this disturbance so that it does not develop. However, surface pressures have fallen 2-3 mb over most of the Western Caribbean the past two days, and there is a good chance that a new area of disturbed weather will develop. One such disturbance formed yesterday south of Haiti, but has since dissipated. Unsettled rainy weather can be expected to affect much of the Western Caribbean over the coming week.

California's fires
Surface maps show that the high pressure system that brought this week's strong Santa Ana winds to Southern California has now moved east and is over Colorado. The Santa Ana winds have ceased over California, and only light winds with afternoon sea breezes are expected today and for the next seven days. No precipitation is expected for at least the next week. The combination of light winds and lack of rain will make for a serious air pollution hazard in the region, until the fires are extinguished. There is still plenty of smoke over the ocean waters (Figure 2) that will get blown back over land by afternoon sea breezes over the next week.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image at 1:45 pm PDT Wednesday October 24, showing a huge area of smoke over the Pacific Ocean. Some of this smoke is being blown northward (top of image), and is expected to move over northern California and northern Nevada over next two days. This northward-moving smoke is being lifted by the flow around an approaching low pressure system, and is not expected to affect air quality near the surface. However, the smoke just offshore San Diego and Los Angeles will remain near the surface, and some of it will be pushed back over land by afternoon sea breezes. Image credit: NASA.

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October moon (mauidave)
with all the smoke in the air the moon last night was looking like holloween.
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651. Patrap Saat: 03:04 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Radar Loop of Puerto Rico..Not much on the Scope overall.The Invest is Still right loaded. Link

Max winds are 32knts on the doppler too.
NEXRAD Radar
San Juan Velocity Azimuth Display Wind Profile Range 124 NMI
Link
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652. Chicklit Saat: 03:05 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Looks like a last gasp for the '07 hurricane season...Cool nights and mornings in east Central Florida for several weeks now.
(I love the picture of the California moon...so sorry for the folks there.)
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653. catastropheadjuster Saat: 03:05 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Hey everyone. anything interesting going on in the tropics?
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654. JLPR Saat: 03:05 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
pressure at 1007mb here coming close
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Luiz Munoz International Airport
Lat: 18.43 N Lon: 66 W Elev: 9 ft
Last Update on Oct 25, 10:56 pm AST

Light Rain

79°F
(26°C)
Humidity: 85 %
Wind Speed: NE 13 G 26 MPH
Barometer: 29.77" (1007.8 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (23°C)
Heat Index: 83°F (28°C)
Visibility: 8.00 mi.
More Local Wx: 3 Day History:
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655. MrSea Saat: 03:07 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
so we got a giant ULL to the northeast that is shearing/ventilating the north and east part of 90L....then we have semi-dry air to the west of 90L (seen by the advancing outflow boundary that I saw earlier)...we have a ULL in the Western Carib...interesting stuff....I gotta go now good night
656. WeatherfanPR Saat: 03:09 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Well, I have to report bad news. 2 men died today and 2 more suffer injuries in Aibonito PR when giant rocks and mudslide hit a car. At this moment in Carolina PR where I live the conditions are breezy with light rain showers.
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657. JLPR Saat: 03:09 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
according to Radar the center of 90l is between Vieques,PR and St.Croix
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658. JLPR Saat: 03:12 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
WeatherFanPR condition are equal here
you live in the same area lol
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659. kmanislander Saat: 03:16 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
If I am reading the loop correctly the low level center is completely exposed and diving to the SW just between the E tip of PR and the heavy convection

Link
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660. kmanislander Saat: 03:21 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Well 10:20 here so off to bed for me

catch up with you all tomorrow
good night
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661. JLPR Saat: 03:22 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
goodnight kman
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662. Miamiweather Saat: 03:24 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Hey kman what do you think of 90L as of tonight Thank you in advance for your help
663. amazinwxman Saat: 03:25 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
sorry everyone but I don't see 90L developing at all I see it going poof and then thats it for the rest of the tropical season.
664. moonlightcowboy Saat: 03:29 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
SkyeponY, just west of Anegada of the BVI....was a new one for me. Sorry it took so long to find and post. lol
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665. kmanislander Saat: 03:32 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Hi Miami

You caught me on the way out LOL

90L has some obstacles to overcome in the short term. Shear and proximity to land.

If shear relaxes enough to allow the system to become vertically stacked AND it does not run aground on PR and Hispaniola then we may well see this become a TD and a storm. It is too soon to speculate on intensity as this will depend on numerous as yet undetermined factors.

Steering is forecast to be weak in the West/Central Caribbean and if it hangs around for several days in favourable conditions it could become a lot stronger than I currently expect.

Shear has not stayed low for long this season other than when Dean and Felix came by and I do not believe this pattern will change now.

This one could be a S Fla system though so keep an eye on it. A hurricane is certainly not out of the question
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666. Miamiweather Saat: 03:38 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
ty we have to take this invest seriously
667. BtnTx Saat: 03:40 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    

607. rareaire 9:33 PM CDT on October 25, 2007
yung uns, your welcome here no one says your not. but post info as it pertains to tropics. Stating its not gonna develop or its a dead storm or 10% chance of development etc... If you have that opinion then simply back it up with your research and we can debate it. Thats all the others have said. Age is irrelevent here. Im old and know little about the tropics but I enjoy those on here that do.


No "intuition" or "gut feel" allowed here!
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668. Tazmanian Saat: 03:42 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
663. amazinwxman 8:25 PM PDT on October 25, 2007
sorry everyone but I don't see 90L developing at all I see it going poof and then thats it for the rest of the tropical season

i 2nd that


RIP 90L RIP 90L RIP 90L do i have to keep saying it LOL
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669. Miamiweather Saat: 03:44 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Taz why do you think 90L will go poof it has a lot of model support inmo
670. pottery2 Saat: 03:45 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
BtnTx, Good Post.........
671. BtnTx Saat: 03:48 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Thanks pottery2 and it is good to see Taz has not burned up yet!
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673. Tazmanian Saat: 03:51 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
666. Miamiweather 8:38 PM PDT on October 25, 2007
ty we have to take this invest seriously


sure we do NOT
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674. Tazmanian Saat: 03:53 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
669. Miamiweather 8:44 PM PDT on October 25, 2007
Taz why do you think 90L will go poof it has a lot of model support inmo


this be come there is a lot of models that support 90L dos not mean it will be come a TD or TS 90L is RIP

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675. pottery2 Saat: 03:54 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
True, BtnTx.
How are the fires around you today, Taz ??
676. Tazmanian Saat: 03:58 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
675. pottery2 8:54 PM PDT on October 25, 2007
True, BtnTx.
How are the fires around you today, Taz ??


the fire are down in S ca but the good news is that they are being put out one by one
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677. pottery2 Saat: 04:03 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
That is good news Taz.
678. BtnTx Saat: 04:05 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
It is good to hear you are safe Taz. My brother-in-law has been deployed by the USArmy to help out down there. I hope fires get distinguished soon!
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679. moonlightcowboy Saat: 04:08 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Good to hear that, TAZ. And, also very glad the fires are getting put out!
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680. JRRP Saat: 04:14 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
I THINK 90L WILL BE TD BY 5 PM TOMORROW OR MAY BE BEFORE
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681. WeatherfanPR Saat: 04:15 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
The coc of 90L is moving quickly sw and part of it is touching the eastearn tip of Puerto Rico. In Carolina PR the conditions are very breezy with stronger gusts and light rain. But again the coc of 90L is in its closest point from PR and moving fast to the sw. Also looks like the heaviest rainfall will be passing just south of PR.
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682. pottery2 Saat: 04:18 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
That is good news Taz.
683. BtnTx Saat: 04:20 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Fact, not opinion, I'm out for tonight, and the weather here in Baytown is clear and cool.
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684. Tazmanian Saat: 04:24 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
680. JRRP 9:14 PM PDT on October 25, 2007
I THINK 90L WILL BE TD BY 5 PM TOMORROW OR MAY BE BEFORE

huh? no it wont
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685. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) Saat: 04:29 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
839hrs32mins remain of 2007 atlantic hurricane season
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686. pottery2 Saat: 04:32 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
STL. Thanks for that good post, and your excellent Blog on the subject. Well done and well explained.
687. KoritheMan Saat: 04:35 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Then, it is the year of short-lived storms, and it is not just an Atlantic thing, it has affected the entire Northern Hemisphere (maybe southern as well), which is currently the second least active season on record, which is saying a lot when you are talking about not just one basin but all of them; I put up a blog on this.

See? I had hinted to you a few weeks back that perhaps a global circulation pattern where conditions were less favorable for tropical cyclogenesis was occuring. I never thought 2007 would be like 1977 in terms of ACE, but that does appear to be the case.
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688. KoritheMan Saat: 04:36 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
huh? no it wont

That's his opinion, Taz. Everyone has the right to have one. He may be wrong, you may be wrong, we don't know.

Personally, I think it will develop, but then I also think it will only last 2 days if it does.
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689. ModernGeographic Saat: 04:36 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
It's blowin' 25 knots solidly (or more) with gusts well into the 30s in San Juan right now. We've had occasional moderate rain. The NEXRAD Time-Series data shows turning to me! ... check it out!

Thanks Jeff for your attention here... NHC barely mentions this... If I were on my boat in the Sonda de Vieques right now, based on their forecast, it'd be damn uncomfortable.
690. KoritheMan Saat: 04:38 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Wow, stay safe ModernGeographic, although I don't see how you COULDN'T stay safe with winds of that magnitude.
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691. HadesGodWyvern Saat: 04:41 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Japan Meteorological Agency

TROPICAL STORM FAXAI (T0720)
23.5N 131.4E - 35 kts 998 hPa

Tropical Cyclone Advisory #4
=============================
At 12:00 pm JST, Tropical Storm Faxai (T0720) maintained its 10 min sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts up to 50 knots moving north-northwest at 15 knots.

expected sustained winds 0300z 27Oct is 50 knots

Gale Warning Area
=================
100 NM from the center of the cyclone

PAGASA

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #1
=============================
The active low pressure area over the Philippine Sea has intensified into a Tropical Depression and was named "JUANING" however, it will not affect any part of the country.

Maximum sustained winds 30 knots

Central Weather Bureau (Taiwan)

Tropical Storm Faxai

0000UTC 26 October 2007
Center Location 23.0N 131.6E
Movement NORTH
Minimum Pressure 998hPa
Maximum Wind Speed 35kts
Radius of 30 kts 100km

Joint Typhoon Warning Center

Tropical Cyclone Advisory #1
=============================
At 0:00am UTC Tropical Depression Twenty (Faxai) has 1 min sustained winds of 25 knots with gusts up to 35 knots. The depression is located 275 NM southeast of Naha, Okinawa moving north-northwest at 18 knots.

significant wave height associated with Faxai is 12 feet.
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692. ModernGeographic Saat: 04:42 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Wow, man! This puff is sustained in the upper 30 knot range... Las Palmas de Coco are A ROCKIN'! It's driven the smoker employees at the Ritz Carleton in doors! lol Howlin' sounds through windows and heavy swishin' of the palm leaves.
693. pottery2 Saat: 04:56 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Hi Kori. Re. your hinting that conditions were not favourable etc, a few weeks ago... And STL's blog.
6 Months ago I went out on a long limb, and said the Atlantic hurricane season would prove to be a dead one. I got a lot of stick for that, because I could not show " scientific data " to back up my idea.
I still have no scientific data, but I do have a fair amount of knowlege and experience from watching and SEEING what the weather is doing, over the past 40 years or so that I have been interested ( I'm 59 ).
The effects of the SAL on Trop. Atl. weather is not well understood, and my own " gut feeling " is that it is playing a huge role in the Atlantic weather. Cant account for Pacific weather though, or can it ?
Also, we are not taking into account major effects such as reduced Arctic ice, warmer European weather ect etc etc.
We live, we learn. Sometimes.......
694. KoritheMan Saat: 05:13 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
Well pottery, I think it's a bit misleading to call to call the Atlantic dead. The only thing the Atlantic has seen this year is a below-normal level of ACE. Other than that, it's pretty much above average. I do think SAL supresses Atlantic hurricane activity, but from August up until now, SAL has averaged below-normal across the Atlantic basin, which explains our 8 storms in September and 2 in August. Also, I would think that if anything, the melting of the arctic sea ice would increase Atlantic hurricane activity.

Simply put, I think it's safe to say that although this year has a moderate La Nina there is a global circulation pattern similar to 1977 taking place. Has nothing to do with SAL, IMO.
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695. 7544 Saat: 05:16 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
for those interested as for the weekend the area in the carb. now and 90l will join forces and ..... see clip below what you think ?

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Link
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696. moonlightcowboy Saat: 05:19 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
lol, TAZ, kewl! Glad you're spinning up now! btw, do you know your blog has reached the end of the internet? comments maxed. lol
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697. 7544 Saat: 05:32 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
south of cuba in the carb. is looking pretty healthy now this could do it without 90l s help
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698. JLPR Saat: 05:41 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    


The cmc is crazy
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699. JLPR Saat: 05:44 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
pressure falling here in Carolina,PR at 1006mb
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700. 7544 Saat: 05:48 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
1005mb-188N-648W.100pc.jpg |90LINVEST.25kts

from the navt site
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701. JLPR Saat: 05:48 AM GMT Tarih: 26 Ekim 2007    
yeah but i mean were I live not the system itself
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